Montecore, good point. I should point out that in my son's school, even beyond ISTEP, there is IREAD3 and they also have Acuity testing three times a school year. When you add it all up, there is a tremendous amount of time being spent on testing that is not spent on classroom instruction.
What state should Indiana look to as a "best practices for educational testing" model?
Heather, of course not...but legislators don't seem to understand that...
To Robert's point, what's the optimal ratio of teaching to testing?
Hard to come up with a ratio....for State purposes less than two hours per subject
should be sufficient....but the number of Standards have grown so much, that it is hard to limit the testing by the test makers...
DougT, the Florida mess came after Bennett was out of office, after the election.
Pence wasn't elected on Education, he was elected on all of the other Republican platforms related to business....Bennett stood for the education platform and that specific platform is what the voters rejected.
Of the educators on this chat, who has invited a politician to observe in the classroom? And what response did you get? Just curious.
Nancy, look for opportunities to attend events where legislators are actually present and then ask them if they support their local public schools and put them on the spot about these topics.
That's a good question, Nancy. I do think that contacting state leaders and lawmakers makes a difference. It's due to the outcry across the state that you're seeing officials attempting to address the problem. Whether they have the right solutions is up for debate.
I think the letters to the editor do add up, especially when legislators have open minds.
What's behind the length of this year's ISTEP is that as new State standards were developed, the Feds required a new test based on those standards to be put in place in one year.
DougT, I see you're using the same "librarian" label that got Senate Majority Leader Long into trouble.
Please remember that Ritz was under attack for possibly not getting the No Chld Left Behind waiver renewed by the Feds...the testing requirement had to be approved to get the waiver...
No, Ritz can just as easily reduce the length of the test...However, she cannot act alone and over the weekend was seeking a special meeting with the State Board and with legislators to make changes...she could never act independently...the Governor pulled the Executive Order out of his hat, that Ritz does not have.
We haven't really talked about the federal government's role in this, but President Obama's Department of Education, led by Arnie Duncan has been aggressive in pushing for testing and using those tests to evaluate schools and teachers. And certainly their requirements had a role in the current length of the ISTEP test.
I do not agree with Gov. Pence's education plan and would not vote for him.
I'm going back to the discussion on standards, Dr. Lux, I've looked at them and there's the CCS and they added to that, in some areas there are too many standards to meet in a school year. what do you think?